An autopsy of the dialog – part three

An autopsy of the dialog - part two
Minimum Wage, Maximum Sleaze

The dialog didn’t, doesn’t and won’t die peacefully. Yes, it is still kicking, it is still getting up to feed on the brain of whatever is still alive. The dialog is zombified. 
The censorship, the lawfare, the protests, the riots, the shouting down of speakers, and the firing of those who get out of line are NOT dialogs. The vilification and distortion of our opponents, the “are you saying that…” straw-men arguments and a host of other logical fallacies are all designed to kill the dialog, not to keep it alive.  The zombified dialog is pushing us toward a zombified reality.

The arguments are dead

In the early years of the Obama administration, when Glenn Beck was still aspiring for mainstream acceptability, he often played a clip of Andy Stern, then still president of SEIU saying:

“We are trying to use the power of persuasion, and if that doesn’t work,
we use the persuasion of power”

That was about eight years ago. As it turns out, the power of persuasion did not work too well.

The classic Marxist arguments, the class struggle and the workers of the world unite arguments lost their appeal for what remained of its natural audience, the ‘working class’. Sure, some Marxist university professors and their brainwashed acolytes are still buying it, but the argument is not persuasive where it would matter: the traditional power base of the left. Class struggle gave way to identity politics.

Identity politics is losing.
The appeal of feminism is in decline; gays have nothing left to fight for; the transgender movement is quickly losing the attention of the mainstream and Islam has to face a growing opposition to its demands all over the globe. Identity politics is fracturing the left. When you have to put the Muslim barber against the lesbian customer or the Black Lives Matter activists against the gay policemen, you are witnessing the revolution devouring its own children.

The centralization of power argument is losing. The EU, the UN, NATO and a host of other supra-national organizations may have had some appeal when they were created, but that appeal is slowly fading as the costs are becoming more apparent. Any of the international organizations could collapse. The EU is already breaking up (see Brexit) and a financial or monetary crisis could easily end it. The UN and NATO are heavily dependent on the US. A binding referendum could end both. The question is not whether such referendum could or should happen, but the fact that these institutions do not have popular support in the countries they depend on for their existence.
With centralized power comes centralized control and an ever-increasing loss of not only individual but communal and reginal freedom and self determination as well. For most people, the costs are increasingly evident and decreasingly tolerable.

The diversity argument is losing. The left’s framing of the notion as equal outcome makes it a code word for obedience, submission and conformity.
It is also pitted squarely against the notion of merit. Justin Trudeau’s cabinet selection after his election was a spit in the face of the concept of merit.
Multiculturalism is a joke and mass immigration is getting increasingly unpopular. Diversity is NOT a strength.

The income inequality argument is losing. Pickety’s book, “Capital in the Twenty-First Century” has the dubious (albeit arguable) honor of being the most unread book on amazon. Arguments against income inequality are so poorly formulated that they cannot be taken seriously.

The climate change hysteria is slowly running out of steam. It is dead last of people’s concerns in any number of polls. The science is getting unsettled with a slew of books questioning the ‘settled’ wisdom. Al Gore’s “An Inconvenient Sequel” is so desperately bad that it made me feel sorry for him. The environmentalists just cried wolf too many times.

I could continue with a long list of examples, but I am sure you get the point. The problem is that as the left is compensating for the loss of the arguments by becoming increasingly shrill. Instead of becoming more reasonable, it is moving the arguments ever further into the extremes, turning ever more emotional and confrontational, ever less willing to compromise. Ideology is becoming tribal. In this new, tribal world, conflict resolution has to move to a different plane.

The transmogrification of the dialog

By now, the left is way past the power of persuasion, they are relying exclusively on the persuasion of power.
The debates transmogrified into political power-games.

The first battlefront is the Media. Lies, distortions and projections; selective reporting, cover ups and manipulative propaganda are the tools to avoid actual dialog.
The media is partisan, and disproportionately one-sided. Ben Shapiro’s “Primetime Propaganda” would be a good introduction to the subject. While bias in itself is not warfare yet, the active exclusion of opinions and the shunning of people holding them is a betrayal of their supposed principles. The media is supposed to be independent. IT IS NOT.

The world of science and the arts are also hopelessly politicized. The world of science is peppered with taboo subjects, verboten views and a broken peer review process. Certain dialogs cannot take place, certain research subjects cannot be funded and results cannot be published. Professors with certain views do not stand a chance of employment or advancement in academia.

Censorship is not an exclusive domain of the media. Companies and government organizations actively censor the expression of unacceptable opinions within their domain. In some cases, these domains can be quite sizeable. Google, YouTube, Facebook, etc. The worst of these are operating entirely in the dark where the subjects of the censorship do not even know what has been withheld from them.

Lawfare is the most dangerous, as it is already a path to violence. Human rights commission and sharia courts are above-the-law adjudicators of very poorly articulated rights and obligations. “Human rights” laws are fuzzy on purpose to accommodate a wide range of interpretations based on the prevailing political winds at the time of their applications. Their processes provide none of the safeguards of proper legal procedures.

All of the above distortions favour the left. The right (whatever that means) is ready for dialog, it is ready for debate, it is ready to engage, but the goal of the left is not to win the debate – any debate – but to win the war.

Softcore war

When Jordan Peterson made his first few videos protesting the university administration’s re-education requests, the essence of his message was a plea for rational dialog, pointing out that without talk we will be left with violence as the only tool to resolve our conflicts.

And violence we got. Antifa, Black Lives Matter or the Black Bloc  are just the tip of the iceberg. Soros is financing about 200 organizations actively sowing discord. Soros wants war. He knows how profitable it can be. He learned it as a teenager in World War II working with his stepfather liquidating the assets of Jews taken to concentration camps.

Leftists don’t seem to understand that using ‘the persuasion of power’ is playing with fire.
They have a patchy record of success, and even their successes are ultimately failures. Yes, they had several successful revolutions and coups, but just as many failures as well. The communists succeeded in underdeveloped countries (Russia, China, Cuba, Vietnam, etc.), but failed in the developed world. The most spectacular failure happened in the Weimar Republic in the period 1920-1933. Two books illustrate the story well: “The Coming of the Third Reich” and “Beating the Fascists?” There was a low intensity civil war in Germany and at the start of the conflicts, the left had the upper hand. The parties to the actual physical combats were the communists, the social democrats and the fascists. The communists started it. The fascists won. It can be argued, that the fascists owe their success to the communists. “Liberal Fascism” also have a good chapter on this.

The left is ready for a war. I don’t think they understand the odds, but maybe they do.
I just don’t like my odds of getting caught in the middle of some serious upheaval. I do not want war, I do not want a revolution and I don’t like to see our world moving in that direction.

Only a dialog could save us, but the dialog is zombified.


This post is part of a series:

An autopsy of the dialog – part one – the way
An autopsy of the dialog – part two – the why
An Autopsy of the dialog – part three – the direction (this post)

4 replies on “An autopsy of the dialog – part three”

  1. Harry H Marsh says:
    Incredibly good series. I, too, am tired of not being able to speak justified truth because it will cause those around me to become unhinged (and open war, e.g. antifa violence, will only claim innocent victims).

    However, did George Soros really do what you claimed above? This may be incorrect, but Wikipedia states: “On one occasion, rather than leave the 14 year old alone, the official took Soros with him while he inventoried a rich Jewish family’s estate, though Soros did not take part.” I know he is evil, just not sure what the facts are regarding Soros’ WW2 history.

  2. Judith Kovacs says:
    Soros is an evil man. At 14, he was not forced to participate to inventory Jewish property but he did. All his life he sowed mayhem everywhere. I knew his uncle who lived in poverty while he had billions. He was more concerned with his megalomaniacal world changing practices than the people related to him.

    I am very sceptical concerning the war staged already against us conservatives. I don’t watch CNN anymore but found myself sitting in the emergency dept waiting room where CNN was blasting how the student activists were reacting to the Florida shooting. Of course they blamed Trump, they found “disgusting” that he blamed the FBI not to react in time. Sorry, we are in war already. We cannot have dialog with these people.

    • zgh says:


      I don’t know how to be an optimist in this world, but I keep trying to convince myself that it is the only thing we can do. Yes, Soros is evil and the war is on but we should never give up. When we do, they win. The fever of the pitch on the left can just as much be a sign of imminent victory as imminent collapse. The left has no argument, it is full of contradictions and has an abysmal record. We just have to repeat the message until it is heard. I am doing my part in trying to articulate the problem. Part of your efforts could be propagating mine.

  3. Sara says:
    “I just can”t understand why we let someone else rule our land~ Cap in Hand . The words of the song by Charlie and Craig the Reid brothers. This is the core reasoning behind the Indy campaign it”s message has been lost since 2014. Making our own decisions to better utilise our countries many resources and escape the Union that has seen the South of England thrive and Scotland and the rest of UK wither. Focus needs to return to the simple issues of the impact of decades of under-investment by any UK Gov”t of either persuasion. The signs of pre-devolution years of decay and mediocre decision making are all around us focus on pointing these signs out and how they / we can start to resolve them is the way forward. The population will follow. What we urgently need is effective vocal leadership of a movement absent of any individual other than Nicola who can focus on developing the case for Independence to a much wider audience. A widely respected figure or Spokesperson/s for the wider movement needs to emerge from Scottish Society who can articulate the case and outline the benefits to doubting Scots. The movement needs a non-political Leader. Indeed leaving the day job to Nicola. Achieving Independence is beyond the ability of a Political Party alone. WE are all floundering around at the moment and no case for an Independent Scotland is being made by anyone.

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