My 5 cents’ worth on the plastics wars

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Good citizens vs good communists

2012-05-28 plasctic bag ban

The battle is raging in Toronto’s City Hall over the fate of the 2009 plastic bag bylaw

The major wants to scrap it – meaning to take away the compulsory aspect and the penalty of non-compliance. Retailers would still be free to charge for them just as they were before the bylaw took effect in July 1st 2009 but without the threat of penalties if they decide not to.

I hope it will not surprise you that some city councilors already came up with amazing new ideas on not only to keep this new tax but also to double it and to make it a real tax by taking it away from retailers. This would be very interesting to discuss, but this blog is not about the sleazy nature of city politics but about its offensive stupidity.

What are they good for?

Before we get to why is this plastic bag policy so stupid, we have to think about what is great about the shopping bags and why does it make so much sense for businesses and retailers to give them away for free.


Plastic shopping bags are the most cost-effective way for retailers to advertise their business. Taking this away from them hurts their ability to differentiate themselves.


Retailers do not like to see you packing your own goods away. It is not very efficient. Tasking the cashier or even a third helper speeds things up considerably.
Let’s calculate: if you pay $12.-/hour (barely above minimum wage) one minute of his time will cost you 20 cents. The cost of a plastic shopping bag is about 2-3 cents. If you can save one minute per checkout, you saved the cost of at least half a douzen shopping bags.

Customer service

The conclusion of a transaction is probably its most positive moment. You are happy to get the goods, they are happy to get your money. Making these last moments of the interaction as pleasant as possible is of great interest to the retailers. They want you to leave their stores with good feelings. Helping you to pack your purchase into a bag they provide for free helps them achieve that.

All these benefits put together make the cost of the plastic bags a great bargain for the retailers, a better service for us.
Plastic bags benefit the retailers, benefit us and benefit the environment, but just for the sake of the argument, let’s suppose that it is not so. Can the 5 cents charge make a difference?

Where is the brain?

My mother in law still uses the well designed, strong LCBO plastic bags they stopped giving away in 2008 She lives in Prague. Going through my mother’s apartment in Budapest after she died, I found three.

I still have a few in the glove compartment of my car. I sometimes use them in the LCBO stores where they invariably create awkward conversations with the staff when other shoppers are asking for them hoping that they have been reintroduced. We NEVER threw out a plastic bag after a single use. We never bought prepackaged garbage bags for home use either. Good quality bags we reused as we needed them, the cheap ones we used for garbage or for the dog while he was still around.

So what do we do now? We carry bags, but since we do not want to soil them, absolutely everything we buy, goes into an in-store food bag which is allowed by the law. While before we had no reason to put bananas, oranges, pineapples into another layer of plastic bag, we have a very good reason to do so now, when they go into our own cloth-bag. Any packaged meet product will go into a bag. So do any frozen product. Anything that can leak. In the end we come out of the store with more plastic then we used to before this wise law was enacted. Sometimes we pay for the bags, but rarely.

After three years, we are still incensed by the coercive nature of this bylaw.
The checkout in our neighborhood deli used to be a pleasant and efficient experience. Young girls handling your purchase: look – punch – bag – look – punch – bag – etc….. – pay – thanks – have a nice day. Now it is: look – punch – look – punch – merchandise pile on the counter – pay  – then everybody waits while the customer takes her own bag and packs the stuff into it. The customer is pressured, the people in the line are impatient, the cashier is bored and frustrated.
If the store doesn’t help us by packing the stuff we purchased, then they have to pay the productivity penalty. If they are not allowed to help us, the whole interaction becomes mildly unpleasant.

When you look around in your world, you see plastic everywhere. It is the most amazing, most flexible and variable material ever invented. The one word advice of Mr. McGuire from “The Graduate.”

Suggesting that plastic is not friendly to the environment is ridiculous. You can look at this list that makes the point. You can find others demonstrating that plastics are far friendlier to the environment than ANY of the alternatives, but what is particular about this bylaw is that it does not attack plastics in general, only a subset of it in particular. The question then becomes the ratio. What percentage of the plastic we use (or even just of what we use for packaging) are plastic bags. Product packaging uses far more plastic than the bag it is put in in the store.  I could not find good numbers on what percentage bags represent of all the plastic we dispose of, but I am willing to bet hard cash that it is tiny. Even an all-out plastic bag-ocide would not make a noticeable difference. Attacking plastic bags is an entirely symbolic act with purely symbolic benefits.

Co-opting the retailers

The original bylaw was designed to co-opt the retailers. It told them that they can keep the money. They can show that they are good citizens by donating the revenue to environmental causes, but they don’t really have to. The cost of the plastic bag is about half of what they are forced to collect for it. The fact that they can keep the money, made the policy easier to swallow.

The intent, the point and reality

The attack on plastic bags is a ridiculous, ineffective gesture. It has nothing to do with saving the environment, it has nothing to do with reducing harm to anything, it has not reduced the use of plastic (I challenge anybody to produce research to prove that it effectively did), but that was not the point to begin with.

The intent was to create an environment where we are reminded of our earthly sins of consumerism, the debt we owe to Mother Nature.
The intent was to make us pay penance for our sins of an easy life.
The intent was to make us feel guilty for enjoying the blessings of the free market.
The point was the self-congratulatory enviro-masturbation of its proponents. “Just look how good we are!”

The point was to offer an outlet to the faithful to publicly profess their faith. What good is it to be friendly to the environment if nobody can see it? Paying for you bag or whipping out your own is like throwing a cross or saying “Peace be upon him” after mentioning the name of the prophet. Walking around with your own enviro-friendly bag is a political fashion statement.
The point was the show of power to prove that they can coerce the rest of us into envirobedience; to push the anti-human, enviro-fascist agenda into our face EVERY DAY, at every moment of a voluntary free market exchange.
The point was to advance an anti-industrial, de-development agenda.
The point was to lay the ground for yet another enviro-tax.

The reality is that reality does not matter. Common sense does not matter. Facts do not matter. The environment does not matter. All that matters is the agenda.

Why is it such a big deal?

Once we allow the government to take control of it, it will develop into an untouchable fixture of our lives. It is happening all over the world. In some places it is already in a more advanced stage, under government control and far more expensive than here. What is happening in Toronto will not stop with the 5 cents left in the retailers’ hands. This is a sin tax with an infinite growth and scope potential.

What I detest the most about this bylaw is what it does to my interactions with the retailers. This law forbids them to be nice to me. To offer me something for free. To do something for me. It is a law to force them to end a transaction on an unpleasant note, reminding both of us how powerless we are.

At the least, you have the power to propagate this.

3 replies on “My 5 cents’ worth on the plastics wars”

  1. David Strutt says:
    Hello Zork,

    Great post! Here’s some additional information people may care to know about.

    Polyethylene is derived from either modifying natural gas (a methane, ethane, propane mix)
    or from the catalytic cracking of crude oil into gasoline. In a highly purified form, it is normally piped directly from the refinery to a separate polymerisation plant.

    It was in the 1930’s that chemists discovered they could convert the ethylene gas waste into polyethylene resin by heating it at very high pressures in the presence of minute quantities of oxygen. In the decades since, the process has been refined to give us a tremendous range of very valuable materials for myriad uses including medicine.

    Eco-nuts choose to remain ignorant about plastics and do everything they can to mislead the general public. We no longer burn off ethylene gas as waste; we make all kinds of great stuff from it, everything from car dashboards to new lenses for folks with cataracts to prosthetics for our soldiers who have lost limbs.

    More than this, the so-called reusable, recyclable shopping bags, which sell for a lot more money than the old style polyethylene bags, are made from woven polyester and pretty much all of them are made in third-world sweatshops. Polyester is expensive to recycle and I doubt very much that anyone would bother doing so with these “reusable” bags. And, when you finally do throw them out, they will last many times longer in the landfills than the low-density polyethylene bags will last.

    Add to the mix the build-up of deadly bacteria from rotting meats and vegetables that gets trapped in the seams and fibres of these “reusable” bags over time. Go ahead, wash the blazes out them … good luck getting all that potential eco-plague matter out.

    Plastic bags should return to the retail world; the prices are still built into the selling prices anyway. Do you really think the retailers removed the bag cost from their selling prices when they started charging for bags? We reused most of them anyway for garbage, or shoes, or gym stuff. Trapped in every one of these little polyethylene gems is the potential to convert energy to heat and drive turbines to produce electrical power; its called incineration and the residues are easy to trap in the process.

    We know that the progressive/socialist/greenies come out of the box just plain stupid, so we expect what we see and hear from them. However, do politicians simply choose to be ignorant and shortsighted or do they come packaged that way too? Do they do any research at all before they start tossing out legislation, that in may cases makes the environmental situation even worse? Or are we electing progressive/socialist/greenies instead of intelligent men and women who can think, reason and provide good governance?

    Maybe we should look before we vote.

  2. zorkthehun says:
    I mentioned to a libertarian friend that if the Toronto plastic bag ban goes into effect, we, meaning the Libertarian Party, should take advantage of this silly law by advertising ourselves through our opposition to it.
    I picture this protest taking place in front of busy Loblaws or similar stores at their busiest times, two libertarian volunteers handing bags out to those who want them while engaging them in conversation about the law and OF COURSE the Party and what it stands for.
    He liked the idea and mentioned it on Facebook. The first reaction was a question:
    “Why would you give something away?”
    Let me try to answer it here.
    For the same reason things are given away for free i.e:
    • To gain personal satisfaction
    • To piss off the idiots who voted for it
    • To provoke them into action about it making themselves even more ridiculous in the process
    • To show the general public where we stand
    • To gage where they do
    • Because it is the right thing to do
    • To give the general public a creative way to protest government stupidity (through walking around with plastic bags advertising our party)
    • Because it is great advertising for the party (The same reason we give flyers away for free)
    • It can even be a business proposition which in our case would be a fundraiser:
    Once the proud owners of our bags go to the link we advertise on the bag, they will get a page suggesting that they donate money so that we can buy more bags to continue with our protest. If anybody gave me something like this advertising a cause I can believe in, I would likely donate more money than I would be willing to pay for the bags,
    • It is not about the bags, it is about the message of freedom
    Should I continue, Dave , or you can start using your own imagination at this point?

    …….. On second thought, maybe I should do it on my own dime, advertising this blog 🙂

  3. […] I was ready to talk about the stupidity of gun control and to explain what I mean saying that I want to be a gun parasite. I was also genuinely surprised to see that it took more than a week before the shtuff, in the person of Adam Vaughan in this case, hit the fan. “If we can’t ban guns then let’s ban bullets,” he said. “If we can ban plastic bags, why can’t we ban bullets?” Lucky for him to have another amazingly brainy idea lying around to back up his own with. (Read my thoughts on that genius idea here) […]

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